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Mike Kovacs
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 03:21:57 AM » |
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Section 44 of the Terrorism Act allows the police to stop and search anyone they want, without need for suspicion, in a designated area. This is how a police state begins.... |
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LarryD
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2009, 04:10:26 AM » |
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I wish across the pond that they would get this idea. I have been stopped 3 times in the last 3 months. One time for a Electrical Sub-Station one for Rail yard and the other time when I was photographing a Church.
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Film photography and the Soviet Union are not dead. Just downsized.
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Mike Kovacs
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2009, 04:31:27 AM » |
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Larry were you just questioned, or illegally detained and/or searched?
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LarryD
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2009, 04:35:53 AM » |
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Well I had the feeling I could just not walk away while they were asking me what I was doing and Why I was there. I was asked to leave the Sub Station area.. I was on a Public street.. and as for the Rail Yard was also shooting it from a public road.... Sometimes the feeling is more than the words. They did not frisk me but wanted to look into my bag.. I was short on time or I might have put up a fusss.
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Film photography and the Soviet Union are not dead. Just downsized.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2009, 06:10:28 PM » |
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My sister-in-law was asked to leave an Amtrak train station by an Amtrak employee while she was taking a photo of an Amtrak train to submit to a photo contest that Amtrak was running that asked people to send in their photos of Amtrak trains.
In NYC, the cops have been instructed NOT to arrest people for taking photographs and told that they CANNOT ask for someone's film or camera when they see them taking photographs in a public space. However, it is apparent from some reports that at best some officers need to clean the wax out of their ears and at worst some precincts have decided NOT to abide by these missives which may or may not mean there is a wink-wink-nod-nod being handed down from the police chief's office (with or without the mayor's blessing - who knows?) Illegal arrests cost NYC millions of dollars every year, but they seem happy to keep on doing it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2009, 07:06:14 PM » |
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Here in Vermont after 9-11 someone found a state law that goes back to 1918 (WWI years) that pretty well states you cannot photograph any kind of infrastructure or power stations or zeppelin moorings or........
I have always expected some activist photographers would arrive and test it out, but not in this day and age.
My advice to tourists, on whom this state so dearly depends, is leave your cameras at home. Or, go elsewhere on vacation.
Wait, someone's knocking at the door....
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2009, 04:52:56 AM » |
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Boy, oh boy, the fuss they raised when I photographed those zeppelin moorings... I'm lucky so far that I haven't been stopped. I sneak photos all the time at work (naval air station) but I don't take pics of anything "secret" or otherwise classified; not that we have anything like that on public view. There are lots of nice areas here -- landscaped and such -- that are begging for pics to be taken, so I try to stick to that...although sometimes I'm tempted to shoot an aircraft out my car window with a box camera...  |
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Pete (Corpus Christi, TX) Every professional should remain always in his heart an amateur. - Alfred Eisenstaedt (1898-1995) My Website
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jake
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2009, 08:10:28 PM » |
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I've only been questioned once in NYC. Right after I took this photo during the Immigration Day Parade, a police officer cornered me and asked for identification. I showed him my Arizona driver's license. He asked where I lived. I told him NYC. He said where in NYC. I said 96th and Madison. He asked why I didn't have a NY driver's license. I said I don't have a car. He said that my Arizona license was expired. I said no it is good until 2025. He said this isn't a real license then is it. I said yes it is. He asked me why I was taking photos of all the buildings. I said I was taking photos of the immigration day parade. He said I saw you taking a photo of a building. I said I am sure buildings were in the photos I took of the immigration day parade. He said is that a digital camera. I said no film. He said okay you can go but I am watching you.  I showed this to a friend who has shot at a lot of city events and he said that most likely one (or both) of the guys in the photos was an undercover cop dressed to mix/melt into the crowd. It had happened to him a couple times in the last 25 or so years of shooting in NYC. |
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LarryD
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2009, 04:00:29 AM » |
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Well Monday I am going back to the substation I want to push my luck on my day off.
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Mike Kovacs
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 05:29:12 AM » |
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I too was harassed in NYC, in the financial district.
Do you have ID? Sure
Why are you here? Work, produces passport with visa
Why are you taking photos? Silence
I asked am I under arrest? No
Am I free to go? No
Am I under arrest...repeat LOL 'til they got sick of me. Pig bastards weren't getting my film for doing nothing wrong.
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LarryD
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2009, 05:31:14 AM » |
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I think I will use the ARAX..... and have only Soviet stuff in my bag.
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Mike Kovacs
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2009, 05:48:52 AM » |
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Show them your Soviet stuff as a little reminder if they start acting like NKVD  |
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LarryD
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2009, 06:16:25 AM » |
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like any of them know anything about History.
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